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Fantasy Defense vs. Position
Which defenses allow the most fantasy points to QBs, RBs, WRs, and TEs? All 32 NFL defenses ranked by position — the direct input for streaming pickups and start/sit calls.
On 2025 results, the most generous defenses are Dallas Cowboys against QBs (23.3 PPR per game), Carolina Panthers against RBs (36.3 PPR per game), Dallas Cowboys against WRs (39.3 PPR per game) and Cincinnati Bengals against TEs (20.9 PPR per game) — each rank 1 of 32, meaning the easiest matchup at that position rather than the best defense.
2025 season defense · updates as 2026 data accumulates
Rank 1 = easiest to score against (most permissive) · Rank 32 = hardest · PPR scoring
| Rank | Defense | Pts Allowed / GPPR · QBs | Games | Tier |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| #1 | DALDallas Cowboys | 23.3fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #1 | DETDetroit Lions | 32.0fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #2 | NYJNew York Jets | 19.9fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #2 | WASWashington Commanders | 27.3fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #3 | INDIndianapolis Colts | 27.0fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #3 | WASWashington Commanders | 19.6fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #4 | HOUHouston Texans | 25.9fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #4 | TBTampa Bay Buccaneers | 19.4fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #5 | DALDallas Cowboys | 25.1fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #5 | TENTennessee Titans | 19.1fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #6 | BUFBuffalo Bills | 23.1fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #6 | PITPittsburgh Steelers | 18.8fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #7 | CINCincinnati Bengals | 18.4fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #7 | MIAMiami Dolphins | 21.1fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #8 | NYGNew York Giants | 18.3fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #8 | NYGNew York Giants | 20.7fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #9 | CHIChicago Bears | 20.1fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #9 | DETDetroit Lions | 18.2fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #10 | CLECleveland Browns | 19.0fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #10 | MIAMiami Dolphins | 18.2fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #11 | CHIChicago Bears | 18.1fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #11 | PHIPhiladelphia Eagles | 18.9fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #12 | BALBaltimore Ravens | 17.7fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #12 | LACLos Angeles Chargers | 18.4fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #13 | CARCarolina Panthers | 18.4fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #13 | SFSan Francisco 49ers | 17.1fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #14 | ARIArizona Cardinals | 17.0fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #14 | ATLAtlanta Falcons | 18.1fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #15 | ARIArizona Cardinals | 17.4fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #15 | INDIndianapolis Colts | 16.9fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #16 | ATLAtlanta Falcons | 16.3fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #16 | GBGreen Bay Packers | 17.2fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #17 | LVLas Vegas Raiders | 16.1fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #17 | TBTampa Bay Buccaneers | 16.9fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #18 | BALBaltimore Ravens | 15.7fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #18 | JAXJacksonville Jaguars | 15.9fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #19 | LALos Angeles Rams | 15.2fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #19 | NONew Orleans Saints | 15.6fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #20 | KCKansas City Chiefs | 15.1fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #20 | MINMinnesota Vikings | 14.7fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #21 | CINCincinnati Bengals | 14.3fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #21 | GBGreen Bay Packers | 15.0fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #22 | JAXJacksonville Jaguars | 14.1fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #22 | NENew England Patriots | 14.7fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #23 | DENDenver Broncos | 13.9fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #23 | PHIPhiladelphia Eagles | 14.5fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #24 | DENDenver Broncos | 14.2fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #24 | NYJNew York Jets | 12.8fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #25 | NONew Orleans Saints | 14.0fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #25 | TENTennessee Titans | 12.8fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #26 | LVLas Vegas Raiders | 12.3fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #26 | SEASeattle Seahawks | 14.0fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #27 | CARCarolina Panthers | 13.8fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #27 | LALos Angeles Rams | 12.2fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #28 | CLECleveland Browns | 13.3fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #28 | SFSan Francisco 49ers | 9.0fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #29 | BUFBuffalo Bills | 13.1fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #29 | NENew England Patriots | 8.8fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #30 | HOUHouston Texans | 12.8fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #30 | KCKansas City Chiefs | 8.4fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #31 | LACLos Angeles Chargers | 12.6fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #31 | SEASeattle Seahawks | 8.2fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #32 | MINMinnesota Vikings | 11.1fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #32 | PITPittsburgh Steelers | 6.8fppg | 2 | Mid |
| Rank | Defense | Pts Allowed / GPPR · RBs | Games | Tier |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| #1 | CARCarolina Panthers | 36.3fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #1 | CINCincinnati Bengals | 28.3fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #2 | INDIndianapolis Colts | 34.2fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #2 | NYJNew York Jets | 28.0fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #3 | ARIArizona Cardinals | 26.2fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #3 | MIAMiami Dolphins | 31.7fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #4 | DENDenver Broncos | 30.4fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #4 | NYGNew York Giants | 25.7fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #5 | BUFBuffalo Bills | 30.1fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #5 | WASWashington Commanders | 25.4fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #6 | DALDallas Cowboys | 24.9fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #6 | NONew Orleans Saints | 28.9fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #7 | MIAMiami Dolphins | 24.9fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #7 | PITPittsburgh Steelers | 26.5fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #8 | CARCarolina Panthers | 24.1fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #8 | NYGNew York Giants | 25.8fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #9 | BUFBuffalo Bills | 23.9fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #9 | DALDallas Cowboys | 24.9fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #10 | CHIChicago Bears | 24.2fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #10 | SFSan Francisco 49ers | 23.6fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #11 | BALBaltimore Ravens | 23.1fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #11 | DETDetroit Lions | 22.9fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #12 | GBGreen Bay Packers | 22.9fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #12 | LVLas Vegas Raiders | 22.9fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #13 | PHIPhiladelphia Eagles | 22.8fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #13 | TENTennessee Titans | 21.8fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #14 | SFSan Francisco 49ers | 20.6fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #14 | TBTampa Bay Buccaneers | 22.1fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #15 | CLECleveland Browns | 21.9fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #15 | KCKansas City Chiefs | 20.4fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #16 | ATLAtlanta Falcons | 21.5fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #16 | BALBaltimore Ravens | 20.3fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #17 | GBGreen Bay Packers | 21.5fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #17 | TBTampa Bay Buccaneers | 19.5fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #18 | PHIPhiladelphia Eagles | 18.2fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #18 | TENTennessee Titans | 21.4fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #19 | CHIChicago Bears | 21.2fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #19 | CINCincinnati Bengals | 18.0fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #20 | JAXJacksonville Jaguars | 17.9fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #20 | NONew Orleans Saints | 20.7fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #21 | CLECleveland Browns | 16.9fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #21 | LALos Angeles Rams | 20.2fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #22 | HOUHouston Texans | 20.0fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #22 | LACLos Angeles Chargers | 16.5fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #23 | INDIndianapolis Colts | 19.9fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #23 | LVLas Vegas Raiders | 16.4fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #24 | LALos Angeles Rams | 16.4fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #24 | MINMinnesota Vikings | 19.6fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #25 | NENew England Patriots | 16.4fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #25 | PITPittsburgh Steelers | 19.5fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #26 | DETDetroit Lions | 19.4fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #26 | SEASeattle Seahawks | 16.1fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #27 | ATLAtlanta Falcons | 15.3fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #27 | KCKansas City Chiefs | 19.2fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #28 | MINMinnesota Vikings | 13.7fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #28 | NENew England Patriots | 18.8fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #29 | ARIArizona Cardinals | 12.9fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #29 | LACLos Angeles Chargers | 18.5fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #30 | HOUHouston Texans | 12.4fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #30 | SEASeattle Seahawks | 18.5fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #31 | JAXJacksonville Jaguars | 18.3fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #31 | NYJNew York Jets | 12.1fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #32 | DENDenver Broncos | 16.9fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #32 | WASWashington Commanders | 10.2fppg | 2 | Mid |
| Rank | Defense | Pts Allowed / GPPR · WRs | Games | Tier |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| #1 | DALDallas Cowboys | 39.3fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #1 | DETDetroit Lions | 43.0fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #2 | CHIChicago Bears | 36.2fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #2 | HOUHouston Texans | 43.0fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #3 | BUFBuffalo Bills | 42.5fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #3 | INDIndianapolis Colts | 36.1fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #4 | BALBaltimore Ravens | 36.0fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #4 | INDIndianapolis Colts | 42.5fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #5 | DETDetroit Lions | 35.7fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #5 | TENTennessee Titans | 41.2fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #6 | ARIArizona Cardinals | 40.6fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #6 | TENTennessee Titans | 35.6fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #7 | LACLos Angeles Chargers | 39.9fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #7 | PITPittsburgh Steelers | 35.2fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #8 | WASWashington Commanders | 34.9fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #8 | WASWashington Commanders | 39.4fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #9 | CLECleveland Browns | 39.1fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #9 | NYGNew York Giants | 33.8fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #10 | ATLAtlanta Falcons | 33.6fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #10 | MINMinnesota Vikings | 38.9fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #11 | LVLas Vegas Raiders | 33.5fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #11 | NYGNew York Giants | 36.9fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #12 | GBGreen Bay Packers | 35.5fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #12 | SFSan Francisco 49ers | 32.2fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #13 | LALos Angeles Rams | 31.7fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #13 | NONew Orleans Saints | 34.4fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #14 | BALBaltimore Ravens | 31.3fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #14 | TBTampa Bay Buccaneers | 31.5fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #15 | GBGreen Bay Packers | 31.3fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #15 | LALos Angeles Rams | 30.4fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #16 | ATLAtlanta Falcons | 30.3fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #16 | JAXJacksonville Jaguars | 31.2fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #17 | DALDallas Cowboys | 30.1fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #17 | NYJNew York Jets | 30.4fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #18 | ARIArizona Cardinals | 30.2fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #18 | JAXJacksonville Jaguars | 29.4fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #19 | MIAMiami Dolphins | 29.9fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #19 | PHIPhiladelphia Eagles | 29.4fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #20 | CARCarolina Panthers | 29.3fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #20 | NENew England Patriots | 29.2fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #21 | CHIChicago Bears | 28.4fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #21 | NONew Orleans Saints | 27.8fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #22 | LACLos Angeles Chargers | 27.4fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #22 | NENew England Patriots | 28.1fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #23 | KCKansas City Chiefs | 27.3fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #23 | NYJNew York Jets | 27.1fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #24 | CINCincinnati Bengals | 24.9fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #24 | DENDenver Broncos | 27.0fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #25 | CLECleveland Browns | 26.9fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #25 | TBTampa Bay Buccaneers | 24.9fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #26 | PHIPhiladelphia Eagles | 26.8fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #26 | SFSan Francisco 49ers | 23.6fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #27 | CARCarolina Panthers | 26.6fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #27 | MIAMiami Dolphins | 23.3fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #28 | BUFBuffalo Bills | 26.5fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #28 | DENDenver Broncos | 21.1fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #29 | LVLas Vegas Raiders | 20.9fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #29 | SEASeattle Seahawks | 26.3fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #30 | HOUHouston Texans | 25.9fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #30 | KCKansas City Chiefs | 20.6fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #31 | CINCincinnati Bengals | 25.3fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #31 | PITPittsburgh Steelers | 15.5fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #32 | MINMinnesota Vikings | 23.7fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #32 | SEASeattle Seahawks | 14.3fppg | 2 | Mid |
| Rank | Defense | Pts Allowed / GPPR · TEs | Games | Tier |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| #1 | CINCincinnati Bengals | 20.9fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #1 | DETDetroit Lions | 29.4fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #2 | ARIArizona Cardinals | 16.9fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #2 | TBTampa Bay Buccaneers | 22.1fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #3 | PITPittsburgh Steelers | 16.6fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #3 | WASWashington Commanders | 22.0fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #4 | ATLAtlanta Falcons | 20.7fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #4 | MIAMiami Dolphins | 16.3fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #5 | INDIndianapolis Colts | 18.9fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #5 | WASWashington Commanders | 15.9fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #6 | CINCincinnati Bengals | 18.5fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #6 | TBTampa Bay Buccaneers | 15.8fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #7 | DALDallas Cowboys | 16.9fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #7 | INDIndianapolis Colts | 15.2fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #8 | LACLos Angeles Chargers | 15.9fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #8 | NYJNew York Jets | 15.2fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #9 | KCKansas City Chiefs | 15.8fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #9 | SFSan Francisco 49ers | 14.8fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #10 | BUFBuffalo Bills | 15.8fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #10 | JAXJacksonville Jaguars | 14.8fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #11 | SEASeattle Seahawks | 15.4fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #11 | SEASeattle Seahawks | 14.7fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #12 | NENew England Patriots | 14.7fppg | 16 | Easy |
| #12 | NYGNew York Giants | 15.4fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #13 | MIAMiami Dolphins | 13.6fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #13 | TENTennessee Titans | 14.2fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #14 | ARIArizona Cardinals | 13.3fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #14 | CARCarolina Panthers | 13.7fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #15 | DETDetroit Lions | 13.7fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #15 | GBGreen Bay Packers | 12.0fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #16 | BALBaltimore Ravens | 11.3fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #16 | DENDenver Broncos | 13.7fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #17 | LALos Angeles Rams | 13.1fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #17 | NONew Orleans Saints | 11.1fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #18 | CHIChicago Bears | 13.1fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #18 | HOUHouston Texans | 11.1fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #19 | JAXJacksonville Jaguars | 11.0fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #19 | NONew Orleans Saints | 12.5fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #20 | CHIChicago Bears | 10.8fppg | 2 | Easy |
| #20 | DALDallas Cowboys | 12.3fppg | 17 | Easy |
| #21 | CLECleveland Browns | 10.5fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #21 | HOUHouston Texans | 12.3fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #22 | CLECleveland Browns | 12.1fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #22 | LVLas Vegas Raiders | 10.3fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #23 | GBGreen Bay Packers | 12.1fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #23 | MINMinnesota Vikings | 9.8fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #24 | DENDenver Broncos | 9.4fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #24 | NYGNew York Giants | 11.4fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #25 | KCKansas City Chiefs | 11.0fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #25 | TENTennessee Titans | 9.4fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #26 | BALBaltimore Ravens | 10.9fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #26 | CARCarolina Panthers | 9.0fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #27 | LALos Angeles Rams | 7.7fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #27 | MINMinnesota Vikings | 10.7fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #28 | LACLos Angeles Chargers | 10.4fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #28 | NENew England Patriots | 6.2fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #29 | ATLAtlanta Falcons | 10.2fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #29 | NYJNew York Jets | 6.0fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #30 | LVLas Vegas Raiders | 10.1fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #30 | PITPittsburgh Steelers | 5.5fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #31 | PHIPhiladelphia Eagles | 5.1fppg | 2 | Mid |
| #31 | PHIPhiladelphia Eagles | 8.3fppg | 17 | Mid |
| #32 | BUFBuffalo Bills | 8.0fppg | 16 | Mid |
| #32 | SFSan Francisco 49ers | 5.1fppg | 2 | Mid |
Common questions
- What does defense vs. position (DvP) mean?
- It ranks all 32 NFL defenses by how many fantasy points they allow to a given position. A defense ranked 1 against tight ends gives up more PPR points to tight ends than any other defense — so it is the best matchup to target, not the best defense.
- Does rank 1 mean the best defense or the worst?
- The most permissive. Rank 1 is the defense that allows the most fantasy points to that position and rank 32 allows the fewest. The ranking is built for finding favourable matchups, so the easiest opponent sits at the top.
- What is 'opponent rank' in fantasy football?
- The same idea under a different name — the rank of a player's upcoming opponent in fantasy points allowed to that player's position. A running back facing the opponent ranked 3rd against running backs has a soft matchup on paper.
- How much does a matchup actually change a player's projection?
- Meaningfully at the extremes and very little in the middle. The gap between the most and least generous defense at a position is worth several points a game; the gap between rank 12 and rank 20 is mostly noise. Use it to break ties among comparable players, not to bench a clear starter.
- What season is this based on?
- Full-season 2025 results, regular season only — 17 games per defense, with playoff weeks excluded so the twelve teams that played in January are not rated on a different number of games from everyone else.
How this ranking works
What it measures. For each fantasy position (QB, RB, WR, TE), every NFL defense is ranked by how many PPR fantasy points they allowed to that position per game in 2025. Rank 1 = most permissive — the easiest defense to stream or start players against. Rank 32 = most stingy. The fppg number is the direct 2025 seasonal average, so you can see exactly how permissive each unit was.
The complement to Strength of Schedule. SOS tells you which team's players face easy defensive schedules over the season. Defense vs. Position flips the lens: it tells you which specific defense a player faces and how much that defense has historically allowed. Use SOS for draft planning; use this for weekly streaming and start/sit calls.
Why per-position. A defense that suffocates wide receivers can still be porous against tight ends or running backs. A single "easy defense" number hides this split. Each position is rated independently, so the number is meaningful for the specific player you're evaluating.
Data provenance. Rankings are derived from week-by-week opponent-vs-position fantasy points allowed (nflverse CC-BY 4.0 data, the same source that powers the Start Score's matchup component), aggregated to a 2025 season average with weekly values rounded to one decimal before aggregation. This is a mean of rounded weekly averages, precise to roughly a tenth of a point. Ranks are stable across all 32 defenses.
Limitation — prior-season basis. These rankings reflect 2025 defensive performance. Coordinators, rosters, and schemes change over an offseason, so last year's soft defense may not be soft in 2026. Treat these as directional — they're the best citable primary-source signal available before current-season data accumulates. The rankings update in-season as 2026 box scores flow through the ETL.
Informational only — not betting, DFS, or lineup advice. Rankings reflect historical defensive permissiveness, not guaranteed future outcomes. PPR scoring assumed. Data via nflverse (CC-BY 4.0). Not affiliated with or endorsed by the NFL or any team.